Jesse Michels probes UAPs, David Grusch’s claims of ufology, venture capital, and the private investment tied to this all. Listen now early and ad-free on Patreon https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal.
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TIMESTAMPS:
– 00:00:00 Introduction
– 00:00:55 Interviewing David Grusch…
– 00:09:00 The fight against misinformation in UFO studies
– 00:13:07 The intersection of consciousness and parapsychology
– 00:16:24 String theory and what physics is
– 00:20:46 Jesse’s relationship with Grusch
– 00:25:59 Reverse engineering programs (the greatest PSYOP of all time)
– 00:37:00 Oppenheimer’s involvement in UFO research?
– 00:51:00 Theories behind UFO crashes
– 00:56:46 The Faustian bargain of forbidden knowledge and love
– 01:08:06 Inside Peter Thiel’s family office, Palantir, and PR
– 01:20:00 Lessons from investment failures
– 01:41:53 UFOs and the private sector (the Wilson memo and AATIP)
– 01:50:01 Unseen parts of the Grusch interview (Roger Penrose’s theory, multiverses)
– 02:03:05 The best evidence for UFOs
– 02:07:20 Why UFOs follow cars and planes
– 02:10:23 The mystery of Edward Leedskallen (Coral Stone Park)
– 02:22:08 Anomalies pointing to new scientific paradigms
– 02:29:08 Behind the scenes of the David Grusch talks
– 02:35:03 Catastrophic predictions for 2024 from Grusch (what did he mean?)
– 02:38:32 Criticism from Avi Loeb
– 02:52:59 Advice for studying the phenomenon
– 03:00:17 Curt’s disappointment in UFO “revelations” lacking tangible evidence
– 03:11:04 Future TOE plans and channel updates
NOTE: The perspectives expressed by guests don’t necessarily mirror my own. There’s a versicolored arrangement of people on TOE, each harboring distinct viewpoints, as part of my endeavor to understand the perspectives that exist.
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LINKS MENTIONED:
– Doc w/ David Grusch on Jesse Michels (YouTube): https://youtu.be/kRO5jOa06Qw
– Jesse Michels (YouTube Channel): https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichels
– Conspiracy (Ryan Holiday): https://amzn.to/3S4w6fH
– Zero to One (Peter Thiel and Blake Masters): https://amzn.to/45AneBE
– The Man Who Mastered Gravity (Paul Shotskin): https://amzn.to/3Q9e7SW
– In Plain Sight (Ross Coulthart’s book): https://amzn.to/45C6H02
– Ross Coulthart’s podcast (Need To Know): https://www.youtube.com/@BryceZabel
– Podcast w/ Neil deGrasse Tyson on TOE: https://youtu.be/HhWWlJFwTqs
– Podcast w/ Ross Coulthart on TOE: https://youtu.be/MQnGcX7oxms
– Documentary on connections in the 1950s with quantum gravity research and anti-gravity or UFOs: https://youtu.be/eBA3RUxkZdc
– Podcast w/ Jacques Vallee on TOE: https://youtu.be/uVo51khU8AE
– News Nation Interview with Ross: https://youtu.be/x_9gTDXF9Vc
– UFOs and Nukes documentary: https://youtu.be/jyTKETcxj0M
– The Hunt for Zero Point (Nick Cook): https://amzn.to/3rPkUZQ
– The Stars Are Too High (Agnew Banson): https://amzn.to/408nMNZ
– Podcast w/ Hal Puthoff on Jesse’s channel: https://youtu.be/iQOibpIDx-4
– Podcast w/ Avi Loeb on TOE: https://youtu.be/4j5S_-MCWq4
– Podcast w/ Leslie Kane on TOE: https://youtu.be/j1fN5Gxm9fk
– Podcast w/ Jeffrey Mishlove on TOE: https://youtu.be/VFpHk9WqCrY
– Why the Soylent Green Creator Went to Goat Farm: https://youtu.be/HUGNqAyBUDw
– Podcast w/ Ross Coulthart on TOE (Part 1): https://youtu.be/JM3kxeU_oDE
– Podcast w/ John Greenwald on TOE: https://youtu.be/NzXPsWQqoYw
– Theo Von’s channel: https://youtu.be/1cziCepYeEM?t=4673
– Podcast w/ Joscha Bach on TOE: https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI
– Podcast w/ Noam Chomsky on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlORiRfcaQe8ZdxKxF-e2BCY
– Podcast w/ Michael Levin on TOE: https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc
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TIMESTAMPS, LINKS MENTIONED, AND SPONSOR:
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TIMESTAMPS:
– 00:00:00 Introduction
– 00:00:55 Interviewing David Grusch…
– 00:09:00 The fight against misinformation in UFO studies
– 00:13:07 The intersection of consciousness and parapsychology
– 00:16:24 String theory and what physics is
– 00:20:46 Jesse's relationship with Grusch
– 00:25:59 Reverse engineering programs (the greatest PSYOP of all time)
– 00:37:00 Oppenheimer's involvement in UFO research?
– 00:51:00 Theories behind UFO crashes
– 00:56:46 The Faustian bargain of forbidden knowledge and love
– 01:08:06 Inside Peter Thiel's family office, Palantir, and PR
– 01:20:00 Lessons from investment failures
– 01:41:53 UFOs and the private sector (the Wilson memo and AATIP)
– 01:50:01 Unseen parts of the Grusch interview (Roger Penrose's theory, multiverses)
– 02:03:05 The best evidence for UFOs
– 02:07:20 Why UFOs follow cars and planes
– 02:10:23 The mystery of Edward Leedskallen (Coral Stone Park)
– 02:22:08 Anomalies pointing to new scientific paradigms
– 02:29:08 Behind the scenes of the David Grusch talks
– 02:35:03 Catastrophic predictions for 2024 from Grusch (what did he mean?)
– 02:38:32 Criticism from Avi Loeb
– 02:52:59 Advice for studying the phenomenon
– 03:00:17 Curt's disappointment in UFO "revelations" lacking tangible evidence
– 03:11:04 Future TOE plans and channel updates
LINKS MENTIONED:
– Doc w/ David Grusch on Jesse Michels (YouTube): https://youtu.be/kRO5jOa06Qw
– Jesse Michels (YouTube Channel): https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichels
– A New Kind of Science (Stephen Wolfram): https://amzn.to/45C3yNP
– Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World (René Girard): https://amzn.to/490VKb6
– Conspiracy (Ryan Holiday): https://amzn.to/3S4w6fH
– Zero to One (Peter Thiel and Blake Masters): https://amzn.to/45AneBE
– The Man Who Mastered Gravity (Paul Shotskin): https://amzn.to/3Q9e7SW
– Podcast w/ Neil deGrasse Tyson on TOE: https://youtu.be/HhWWlJFwTqs
– Podcast w/ Ross Coulthart on TOE: https://youtu.be/MQnGcX7oxms
– Documentary on connections in the 1950s with quantum gravity research and anti-gravity or UFOs: https://youtu.be/eBA3RUxkZdc
– Podcast w/ Jacques Vallee on TOE: https://youtu.be/uVo51khU8AE
– News Nation Interview with Ross: https://youtu.be/x_9gTDXF9Vc
– UFOs and Nukes documentary: https://youtu.be/jyTKETcxj0M
– The Hunt for Zero Point (Nick Cook): https://amzn.to/3rPkUZQ
– The Stars Are Too High (Agnew Banson): https://amzn.to/408nMNZ
– Podcast w/ Hal Puthoff on Jesse's channel: https://youtu.be/iQOibpIDx-4
– Podcast w/ Avi Loeb on TOE: https://youtu.be/4j5S_-MCWq4
– Podcast w/ Leslie Kane on TOE: https://youtu.be/j1fN5Gxm9fk
– Podcast w/ Jeffrey Mishlove on TOE: https://youtu.be/VFpHk9WqCrY
– Why the Soylent Green Creator Went to Goat Farm: https://youtu.be/HUGNqAyBUDw
– Podcast w/ Ross Coulthart on TOE (Part 1): https://youtu.be/JM3kxeU_oDE
– Podcast w/ John Greenwald on TOE: https://youtu.be/NzXPsWQqoYw
– Theo Von's channel: https://youtu.be/1cziCepYeEM?t=4673
– Podcast w/ Joscha Bach on TOE: https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI
– Podcast w/ Noam Chomsky on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlORiRfcaQe8ZdxKxF-e2BCY
– Podcast w/ Michael Levin on TOE: https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc
Its a long game psyop. Its biblical. Not dismissing the phenomenon as wholly fake, but watch it play out. Decades and layers of deception at play. Thats my take.
This interview was more informative and entertaining than any movie or TV show I can think of
The teachings on this channel are always top notch so informative and easy to understand, it's very hard to find good content online these days
man stop pushing the ufo BS…all nonsense, pls don't follow views…pls
If we imagine that german scientists developed antigravity in the 1930's & we imagine that the ruling party, at the time, was sponsored by banking interests, could it be possible that this tech has been developed in secret using cia blackbudget funding and secrecy with the aim of using it to launch Von Braun's false alien invasion and lay the groundwork for dissolution of nationhood and the establishment of a novo ordo seclorum?
what are the marks on jesse's arms? I see 3 on each arm, is he a cyborg? 🧐
Just SO GOOD
To speculate on why UFOs crash, it’s an easy one: who’s to say that there aren’t several species of aliens at play on earth? And who’s to say they aren’t shooting each other down for control over earth?
My Two favorite podcasters and I was not disappointed ❗
Keep up the Good Work gentlemen ❗👏👏👏
Cheers❗🍻
Before this conversation begins my best guess is we are dealing with another civilization, from afar, that got here because they had Elon Musks singularity with ai more than 300,000 years previous or more to our current technical advancement. In fact their ai is how they even got here in the first place. Now I will listen to this conversation.
Ok. The interviewer may know whats being discussed.
And the guest may know what he’s explaining, but as a listener, i’m not able to following what they’re talking about. I feel like someone who wondered into a conversation without any context. I wish they could make this understandable for a layperson to understand
Thousands of light years away? Lol, the phenomenon is HERE brother, not out There. It always has been. Just ask any long time SETI astronomer, the only valid ET signal ever found came from our planet – not from deep space.
Higher Realm thru controlling the thoughts of the physical directive, awesome
Outstanding interview! I learned a lot in a historic context. My two favorite Podcasters/YouTubers/Truth seekers
Everyone has sold themselves on the idea these “things” are love and fluffiness… without any good reason to believe such a thing
Curt & Jesse: you two seem to have a shared "vibe" that could work well in future collaborations. Such a high level of intelligence, but also the ability to frame things in lay-person terms. Thanks to both of you.
I love the topic compilation idea, that would be awesome!
Trumpers…. 😂
He did a good interview with Grusch
Great Podcast, thankyou for putting this together. And thankyou for your channel, one of the very best on the net.