Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought resist not evil referred to evil done against you. If you have a duty to act in protection of those under your protection, you must resist evil.
Bishop Strictland do not listen to Francis as he has lost his way ,We need good Bishops like you to protect our Faith May God Bless you .Francis is a bully we are not following francis he will answer to God one day
He should keep to the tradition of Saints such as Padre Pio and Ignatius of Loyola, and be in obedience to the Holy Father, trusting in God that the Truth will always prevail. Submission to the Holy See is always the correct answer, for he sits in the seat of Peter. And as Jesus said of those in the seat of Moses, "whatever they command you, do".
Jorge Bergolio at his advanced age, will have to sincerly convert in his heart and ask forgiveness for his sins. Or what awaits him is eternal suffering… Let's pray for his conversion and his eternal soul.
This type of decision is not limited to Bishop Strictland. All of us at some point will be told that we are banished if we do not accept sodomy. This is an easy decision for real Catholics
Why are you so fearful. You tube does not care what you say about Bergolio unless it advocates harm to him?? Better grow a spine the the time is coming when you will need it
I think they have made their play on Bishop Strickland already by the visitation. There was no immediate reaction, dismissal or other proposal from Rome or Pope Francis after that visitation, which tells me that nothing inappropriate was happening in Bishop Strickland's Diocese. If asked to resign he should not without proof of error! If he is dismissed by the Pope he should go his own way stay truthful to the Gospel and if necessary go underground and carry on the faith including the TLM and feed GOD's Sheep with the truth and the Eucharist!
5:01 I’m only a few points into the summary of Dr. K’s position, and I can’t help thinking they sound like the collegiality that more traditional types reject. Am I hearing this wrong?
I don’t remember who originally said it, but I had it said at me recently when discussing Abp. Lefebvre, wherein my interlocutor argued that to disobey the pope was sin but not consecrating bishops was not a sin: therefore, Abp. Lefebvre’s consecrations were sin. What, if anything, is wrong with this argument?
How would Bp. Strickland disobeying the Pope’s order here be different?
For me this is a no brainer. Of course Bishop Strickland should resign, and then put on his hiking boots and head in the direction of the SSPX. Scripture is so clear about wiping the dust off one's feet when the village refuses to listen and then courageously move on to the next. Of course given the cat and mouse game the SSPX plays with Rome they might not be willing to open the door. However before this happens, if the laity get together and tell Rome the new episcopal supine familiar will not receive a farthing of support, Rome may reconsider. Remember the song from Cabaret, "money makes the word go around"?
Absolutely not! Any order from the clergy including the Pope himself, must be aimed at the end goal of savior of souls. Any order that does not forward this goal is not valid.
Not to mention the validity of Francis election is in doubt, and increasingly so.
The German bishop sounded like he was saying that Francis talks like a democrat, but rules like an autocrat. He's the exception to his own thoughts on clericalism, etc. Synodality is just a smokescreen for Francis to implement his own doctrine, and the claim it was the Spirit speaking through the "People of God" at the SOS. At least, that's how I understood what the bishop said
TOTAL SUPPORT FOR THE 5 CARDINALS… THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT…
YES TO THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS FOUNDED BY PETER BASED ON THE DOCTRINE OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES… NO TO THE FALSE CHURCH OF THE CA$TROCOMUNI$TA ATHEIST BERGOGLIO AND HIS BAND OF MINIONS RULED BY THE DEVIL WHO SHOULD BE REPUDIATED, REJECTED AND COMPLETELY IGNORED…CHRISTIANS MUST BE VERY FIRM IN RESISTING AND LEAVING THEM TALKING ALONE
1. Don't be afraid to call this a debate. Real debates are typically polite; it is political "debates" that are personal sniping matches, but these are really moderated discussion panels, and not real debates.
2. If the punishment directed at Bp. Strickland affects only him, he should accept it. However, this (to me) does not appear to be the case, as his replacement would very probably be a danger to the lay faithful currently under his care.
3. I also generally prefer low mass, not for aesthetic reasons or length, but because I find the low mass easier to follow; I find it distracting when the priest gets ahead of the choir.
Treatment basics for sprained/turned ankle = R.I.C.E.: Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. All work to decrease/minimize swelling since swelling "presses" nerve endings = pain. Crutches may help to Rest it (remove from service). Ice intermittently. Compress with Ace Wrap or similar, intermittently (follow instructions) for support & to decrease swelling. Elevate above level of the heart (lay on couch & hike it up on back of couch; used pillows or similar devices instead). No instructions on how to manage small children while juggling treatments! May God heal you quickly!
But…if BerGOGlio is in schism (which he IS), then he is the one who cannot, and should not, be obeyed? Also, reading the definition of schism: didn't it USED TO BE one had to be in union with the Magisterium? The only way one could truly be "in union with" a Pope would be if he, too, was in union with the Magisterium. The only reason this simplistic "definition" (very incomplete and inadequate) of schism was worded in such a way, was in response to the Orthodox not agreeing that the man elected to the Papal Office was the primary Bishop of the whole Church, NOT that he must be obeyed in all things (legal or illegal). The Papal Office has very strictly circumscribed instances in which he has complete, total authority. The Pope actually has ZERO rights to remove a good Bishop "just because" the Bishop refuses to sin!
Strange, how BerGOGlio says he seeks to avoid "clericalism" (abuse of authority) by resorting to…clericalism! Typical forked-tongue speech by the Serpent, whose mouthpiece BerGOGlio seems to be. 😠
No surrender. He's in it for the long . Bishop Strickland should keep doing what he's supposed to be doing he's ministering to his flock the written gospel which I'm sure he doesn't take away from and warp. So Id say no surrender for sure. Ave Maria 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They will wait until after the sinod to address Bishop Strickland. That way there will have been enough discussions and proposals and changes and destruction to the Church to substantiate/condone/justify why they are cancelling Bishop Strickland. Never underestimate a manipulator.
As a Tradition Catholic since birth in the early 50’s, I’ve been through a lot and Pope Benedict was my first Pope I liked. All others had a strain of MODERNISM which rubbed me. Now looking back on our history, we’ve had good & bad Pope’s…and we’re still here. I’ll continue to be Catholic and follow the Gospel according to Jesus and be hopeful and charitable moving forward. God’s got this and that gives me the Peace of Christ.
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The Roman Baptist Convention.
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought resist not evil referred to evil done against you. If you have a duty to act in protection of those under your protection, you must resist evil.
Bishop Strictland do not listen to Francis as he has lost his way ,We need good Bishops like you to protect our Faith May God Bless you .Francis is a bully we are not following francis he will answer to God one day
Bishop Strickland should never resign,!.
"Hail Mary" said😊
We have to obey the Pope .but He in turn has to obey Jesus.
When i lived in Australia i attended the Latin Mass I remember an older Priest used to say Dont listen to what they say LISTEN TO WHAT THEY DO
Depose the pope, not Strickland.
I like your option, Anthony. Deus vult.
Option #3 could be a very promising silver lining to this very dark looming cloud, well done 👍
"Schism" is pronounced like "scissors," not like "skeptic."
Bishop Strickland should not resign.
He should keep to the tradition of Saints such as Padre Pio and Ignatius of Loyola, and be in obedience to the Holy Father, trusting in God that the Truth will always prevail. Submission to the Holy See is always the correct answer, for he sits in the seat of Peter. And as Jesus said of those in the seat of Moses, "whatever they command you, do".
Bishop Strickland is a saint. Bergollio is evil incarnate.
I pray for you and your family in all my prayers, every day. Sr. Catherine Leboure, 3rd order of the Carmalites
Only those ready to embrace sodomy will say bishop Strictland should kowtow to the satanic Bergolio
Jorge Bergolio at his advanced age, will have to sincerly convert in his heart and ask forgiveness for his sins. Or what awaits him is eternal suffering…
Let's pray for his conversion and his eternal soul.
he should not, a heretical anti-pope has no rightful authority to dismiss bishops.
This type of decision is not limited to Bishop Strictland. All of us at some point will be told that we are banished if we do not accept sodomy. This is an easy decision for real Catholics
Why are you so fearful. You tube does not care what you say about Bergolio unless it advocates harm to him?? Better grow a spine the the time is coming when you will need it
Is Francis Catholic?
Francis is irrelevant, what he has to say is of no interest to me. He is an angry, hateful human being.
Thats all we can do…Can't Strickland sign up for fssp? i did!
Prayers for your ankle.🙏 I am praying for my beloved Bishop Strickland. He has said he will not resign. I pray he won't. He's an excellent shepherd.
I think they have made their play on Bishop Strickland already by the visitation. There was no immediate reaction, dismissal or other proposal from Rome or Pope Francis after that visitation, which tells me that nothing inappropriate was happening in Bishop Strickland's Diocese. If asked to resign he should not without proof of error! If he is dismissed by the Pope he should go his own way stay truthful to the Gospel and if necessary go underground and carry on the faith including the TLM and feed GOD's Sheep with the truth and the Eucharist!
Ankle Ave!
I turned my ankle really hard (for about the 3rd or 4th time) a few weeks ago. Thankfully, this time recovery was fast.
5:01 I’m only a few points into the summary of Dr. K’s position, and I can’t help thinking they sound like the collegiality that more traditional types reject. Am I hearing this wrong?
“Obey in all things but sin.”
I don’t remember who originally said it, but I had it said at me recently when discussing Abp. Lefebvre, wherein my interlocutor argued that to disobey the pope was sin but not consecrating bishops was not a sin: therefore, Abp. Lefebvre’s consecrations were sin. What, if anything, is wrong with this argument?
How would Bp. Strickland disobeying the Pope’s order here be different?
For me this is a no brainer. Of course Bishop Strickland should resign, and then put on his hiking boots and head in the direction of the SSPX. Scripture is so clear about wiping the dust off one's feet when the village refuses to listen and then courageously move on to the next. Of course given the cat and mouse game the SSPX plays with Rome they might not be willing to open the door. However before this happens, if the laity get together and tell Rome the new episcopal supine familiar will not receive a farthing of support, Rome may reconsider. Remember the song from Cabaret, "money makes the word go around"?
Absolutely not! Any order from the clergy including the Pope himself, must be aimed at the end goal of savior of souls. Any order that does not forward this goal is not valid.
Not to mention the validity of Francis election is in doubt, and increasingly so.
The German bishop sounded like he was saying that Francis talks like a democrat, but rules like an autocrat. He's the exception to his own thoughts on clericalism, etc.
Synodality is just a smokescreen for Francis to implement his own doctrine, and the claim it was the Spirit speaking through the "People of God" at the SOS.
At least, that's how I understood what the bishop said
Interesting that the ICKSP was founded Gabon, Africa. That's where Archbishop Lefebvre spent most of his missionary career, if I'm not mistaken.
JESUS YES!!! …bergoglio NO!!!
TOTAL SUPPORT FOR THE 5 CARDINALS… THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT…
YES TO THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS FOUNDED BY PETER BASED ON THE DOCTRINE OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES… NO TO THE FALSE CHURCH OF THE CA$TROCOMUNI$TA ATHEIST BERGOGLIO AND HIS BAND OF MINIONS RULED BY THE DEVIL WHO SHOULD BE REPUDIATED, REJECTED AND COMPLETELY IGNORED…CHRISTIANS MUST BE VERY FIRM IN RESISTING AND LEAVING THEM TALKING ALONE
1. Don't be afraid to call this a debate. Real debates are typically polite; it is political "debates" that are personal sniping matches, but these are really moderated discussion panels, and not real debates.
2. If the punishment directed at Bp. Strickland affects only him, he should accept it. However, this (to me) does not appear to be the case, as his replacement would very probably be a danger to the lay faithful currently under his care.
3. I also generally prefer low mass, not for aesthetic reasons or length, but because I find the low mass easier to follow; I find it distracting when the priest gets ahead of the choir.
Treatment basics for sprained/turned ankle = R.I.C.E.: Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. All work to decrease/minimize swelling since
swelling "presses" nerve endings = pain.
Crutches may help to Rest it (remove from service).
Ice intermittently.
Compress with Ace Wrap or similar, intermittently (follow instructions) for support & to decrease swelling.
Elevate above level of the heart (lay on couch & hike it up on back of couch; used pillows or similar devices instead).
No instructions on how to manage small children while juggling treatments!
May God heal you quickly!
No
I pray he doesn’t 🌹🙏
If he is true Catholic YES!
No. He should not obey Francis and neither should anyone else.
But…if BerGOGlio is in schism (which he IS), then he is the one who cannot, and should not, be obeyed?
Also, reading the definition of schism: didn't it USED TO BE one had to be in union with the Magisterium? The only way one could truly be "in union with" a Pope would be if he, too, was in union with the Magisterium. The only reason this simplistic "definition" (very incomplete and inadequate) of schism was worded in such a way, was in response to the Orthodox not agreeing that the man elected to the Papal Office was the primary Bishop of the whole Church, NOT that he must be obeyed in all things (legal or illegal).
The Papal Office has very strictly circumscribed instances in which he has complete, total authority. The Pope actually has ZERO rights to remove a good Bishop "just because" the Bishop refuses to sin!
Strange, how BerGOGlio says he seeks to avoid "clericalism" (abuse of authority) by resorting to…clericalism! Typical forked-tongue speech by the Serpent, whose mouthpiece BerGOGlio seems to be. 😠
So, Jorge is really trying to just establish a cult of personality, rather than allow the practice of, and belief in, the cult of True Religion.
No surrender. He's in it for the long . Bishop Strickland should keep doing what he's supposed to be doing he's ministering to his flock the written gospel which I'm sure he doesn't take away from and warp. So Id say no surrender for sure. Ave Maria 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
No.
Nobody should listen to the false prophet Bergoglio
They will wait until after the sinod to address Bishop Strickland. That way there will have been enough discussions and proposals and changes and destruction to the Church to substantiate/condone/justify why they are cancelling Bishop Strickland.
Never underestimate a manipulator.
As a Tradition Catholic since birth in the early 50’s, I’ve been through a lot and Pope Benedict was my first Pope I liked. All others had a strain of MODERNISM which rubbed me. Now looking back on our history, we’ve had good & bad Pope’s…and we’re still here. I’ll continue to be Catholic and follow the Gospel according to Jesus and be hopeful and charitable moving forward. God’s got this and that gives me the Peace of Christ.