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Still waiting for next year's round of printers.
you are so correct on just about everything. Especially the VOC thing. Tiny charcoal filters will never help VOC – you need massive volumes of airflow into massive filtration systems (comparitively speaking to the printer size) to actually do anything about the VOCs. It is far easier, and cheaper, to just vent them outside. A flexiduct and a large, high pressure fan will do the trick.
I actually sat down and looked at each point, and imagined if i would use them 'every print' – 'every other print' or 'rarely on a print' – and … honestly the Ultra to me is the way to go. I am still holding out on my first resin as I don't have the real ability to yet (fumes need taken care of, low ventilation area and VOC don't mix well) so maybe a slightly better unit will arrive before I actually buy – but it seems to be the one I aim for, and to be honest there's so little for me to actually expect better – it comes down to 'nice to haves'.
Things like – a resin auto-dispenser system where the bottle is upside down and gently flows resin in to keep it topped off. (seen on other systems) – or a vat warmer, to heat up the resin to it's best curing temperatures. (this may or may not be achieved by turning the vat into a heat sink for the other parts as well, possibly eliminating the need for a fan) or slightly larger build volumes, while retaining the roughly 25 micron excellent print detail. (+/- a few microns, doesn't really matter to me) and of course a vat with a tapered edge to make pouring excess out easier, and more controlled, for when it's time to change colors or types.
But these are all literally just 'nice to haves" and not "musts" – the Ultra… seems to be by far the best resin printer out right now, at it's price point. +/- $100 USD.
I got the vat and clear film for my Ultra. Along with clear replacements for the vat that came with it. So now two vats both with clear film.
While I'm posting, is there any chance you will be making your resin available here in the US?
For the YT algorithm!!! Nice review.
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Mars 4
Comment so Ross can buy more Legos
DON’T level with resin loaded in the machine. That’s bad practice, just don’t do it.
Just get sunlu abs resin. High precision, durable and cheap!
I've got a Mars 3 and just got a Saturn 2 and I'm using the standard Elegoo Gray. The mars on .035 (figures) and .05 (bases/terrain) works perfectly and gives me more detail than I can paint and see from a foot away. The Saturn 2 – well got it dialed in (I'm pretty sure I did) and got it running with the first batch – 4 mounted barbarians. Seems to be working fine and I'm doing .03 for the layers.
I agree on a bigger build plate – I've printed some dragons on the Mars they're in pieces. On the Saturn – they should fit all at once and some 2 at once.
I have the 4 ultra, TBH the fep thing is totally irrelevant, it's going to be replaced at some time, so I have no idea why it's even a second thought, never mind the big issue you appear to have with it.
The fep is a consumable just like the resin and IPA, you choose what resin and fep to use in order to suit your own needs – irrespective of that which came with the printer.
The only issue I have had is with the WiFi, and I think that is more to do with Tango!
Every so often, Tango can't find the printer, checking the network and attached devices, and the mars 4 ultra (with a fixed ip address) is always there with 192.x.x.24 in my case.
Removing and reinstalling Tango, and magically it reappears!
And yes, the move/rotate within Tango is too clunky, but overall, it does supports and so many other things better than cbox or lychee out of the box – let's face it, there isn't perfect software out there.
Great
(Felt I need to add the great, as if it's obligatory)
Imagine having print fails from a tenth of a second exposure time. Cool feature but what?
Quick question Ross. Would you still consider the GK2 as the King of the Hill when comparing its print quality to these new Ultra Elegoo ones?
Great videos btw, keep it up!!
I am still unsure. I wanted the mars 4 ultra but its so weird that the saturn 3 ultra makes the better quality although the resolution of the mars 4 is better.
I'm 90% sure the screen protector is under the black tape. Since replacement protectors aren't on Elegoo's website, I assume you just take the tape and protector off, then replace the whole lot with something aftermarket.
Still using the same bloody irritating stock footage, haven't a clue why as I assume it costs you money to use footage of randos shrugging.
It may not be a big deal but it makes me grind my teeth every time I see it.
It's hackneyed and cheesy.
weird, why would a screen protector even be mounted under the screen, that would seem….pointless?
As always FauxHammer pointing out items of concern greatly appreciate your channel. Thanks.
Amazing video!
it would be cool to compare these to the Sonic Mighty upgrade, 😀 I read it is 19 micron and haven't seen many people covered the upgrade!
i would still very much like to be able to get your resin stateside
If I want to switch to pfa on my Saturn 3 ultra I’m just buying the sheets for the Saturn 3 12k and also use the lift speeds of the non ultra or I’m missing something here ?
i don't care how many times you say 'great'. at least you aren't saying "not gonna lie" like every yank does every 12 seconds
Wargamer available in the USA please.
Hi Ross! This was a really helpful video as always! In 12:10, I would say the regular Mars 4 has slightly better print quality both with pfa and acf, right? The thinner lines in the bottom left corner of the calibration plate seem to fail with the Mars 4 Ultra. Any thoughts on this??
Thanks a lot!
So, are the resin tanks themselves exactly the same, or not? It seems pointless to buy an extra tank for the Ultra with ACF and immediately replace it, if I can buy one for the 9K with FEP preinstalled. Elegoo responded on their site that they are not interchangeable, because the dimensions are different. The listed dimensions are the same, though…
Good evening! I recently discovered your channel, congrats on the quality of the videos.
I have been printing with FDM and SLS printers for years.
I currently have a need to purchase a resin printer.
The purpose is to make medium and small parts, I need them for engineering purposes, so I need excellent quality (this is why I switched to resin printers).
I do not have an illimited budget currently the "Saturn 3 ultra" is out of range (550 Amazon).
Seeing your videos I am considering:
Anycubic Photon Mono X 6Ks(312), ELEGOO 3D Printer MARS 4 Ultra(330). I like the possibility of more volume with the mono x6ks, but I don't know how much I lose in quality.
Not if I should consider other models such as the Anycubic Photon Mono M5 (430).
Any suggestions are welcome (also regarding resins with remarkable mechanical performance and those that are transparent)
@fauxhammer the AA not working and just merging everything is super annoying and still not fixed. a bit ridiculous at this point, if you ask me.
So the vats are identical other than the film difference? Elegoo replied to a question on their website that it would not swap
I read mars ultra has a firmware limit of lift speed set to ~100mm/h (~1.6mm/m), I also read for pfe/pfa you must set to 30~50mm/h because things between 50mm/h and 180mm/h tend to fail and depending on the piece if you go higher you could break your object. Did you find any issues with the 100mm/h limit speed on ultra? (im planning to use ultra for minis on water washable resin)
Im new to 3D printing and have a pretty big budget. I am looking to print table top miniatures. What would you recommend.
mars 4 boke after 3 prints. amazing prints….but it stil broke.
my mars 2 is still strong
Thanks for the fantastic reviews, coming from a super newbie it really helps!
I guess their version of the screen protector is the plastic which it said to remove. Maybe they meet screen protector for when transporting the printer.
Anything as good as 0.1 mm layer heights for a standard FDM 3D printer is adequate for me.
there is a screen protector under the tape. and you cannot replace it.I had a mishap and resin got on the tape. Unfortunately, I didn't notice it – since I rarely remove the tank. The tape dissolved in a short time and only a little of the resin came onto the cable from the display – the display was then destroyed. The fact that there is no real protection really bothers me with these Elegoo printers. If something happens you will have a lot of problems afterwards. and I have already replaced a display once and had problems with the z axis and MB was defective. I sent the printer back. Now the problem… and I decided not to buy a Mars 3 build with the display like Mars 4. I'm looking for something better. But YES this screen protector really sticks underneath this tape. and you can't replace it. On the first printer I simply stuck PET film over it. Whatever happened to smira. There was a piece of resin in the tank that I didn't notice. The Z axis leveled to Z=0 and the display and the glass pane broke. The new display comes without a glass pane and I had to cut a new glass out of crystal glass for picture frames… Okay, that was my mistake too… and I was happy with the Mars 3 except when it comes to the display protection, which is just bad .
this is the weirdest video bro said the saturn 3 acf film didnt change quality but the saturn and the mars have the same lens i just dont get it
Cool
Alas, no ball screw.
I might go with the Mars Volta
I was considering Saturn 3 Ultra but went with 2x Mars 4 Ultra. One for flexible parts, the other for hard parts. I only use 2 resins, Clear Impact and Elastomer-X from Liqcreate.
@FauxHammer
would you pick elegoo mars 4 max or anycubic mono x2 6k or anycubic mono x2? i have a mars 3 ultra already and i need something bigger for figures that goes from 12cm (about 6 inch) to 30 cm (12 inch) or even a bit bigger, i model them myself and i usually like to split them. thannnks